September - Central Florida Autocross [Archive] (2024)

GlennF

3rd September 2006, 20:51

Well, since Kabel seems to be snoozing this month I'll post up the months events. (Just kidding Kevin :) )

SCCA-CFR (West):
September 3 (Sun) - Brooksville, Great course today, lots of fun.
SCCA Central Florida Region (http://www.cfrsolo2.com/)

MSCC:
September 10 (Sun) - Lake County Technical Center, Tavares
(new registration times are in effect, $10 Late fee applied after 8:30am)
Martin Sports Car Club (http://www.martinsportscarclub.com/)

SCCA-CFR (East):
September 24 (Sun) - Deland Airport, and you can pre-register online to save time inline.
SCCA Central Florida Region (http://www.cfrsolo2.com/)

MSCC:
September 30 (Sat) - Gainesville International Raceway for the annual MSCC Mini-Prix.
Martin Sports Car Club (http://www.martinsportscarclub.com/)

Wowak

4th September 2006, 10:59

Maxcat

4th September 2006, 13:58

Sideburns

4th September 2006, 18:29

Wowak

4th September 2006, 18:32

Wowak

4th September 2006, 21:11

kabel

4th September 2006, 22:24

Well, since Kabel seems to be snoozing this month I'll post up the months events. (Just kidding Kevin :) )
Thanks Glenn, I've been busy building my new autox trailer for the last couple days :p

Is anyone else going to the Evo school on the 29th in Ft. Myers? I sent my check out last week.
I do not have the time or the budget to do evo, which really bums me out because I have been waiting for Jean to put on a Phase 2 here in FL, maybe if it were closer.

I am planing to got to the Mini-Prix, though I prefer to drive up Friday and spend the night, but there does not seem to be any available rooms in Gainesville that night :(

Trey, get yourself to the Nats! Make us proud!

GlennF

4th September 2006, 22:39

MarkM1991Silver

4th September 2006, 23:05

I am planing to got to the Mini-Prix, though I prefer to drive up Friday and spend the night, but there does not seem to be any available rooms in Gainesville that night :(

The 30th is a Gator game vs. Alabama...hotel rooms will be scarce indeed! Brooksville was good Sunday...rain stayed away. 8 runs and lots of slalom and a turn-around that I never quite got right. Is there a course map somewhere online from previous Mini-Prixes? Obviously I have never been to one, but I get the impression they run a fairly open course?

PAW467

5th September 2006, 09:53

Yes, we do run a fairly open course. I'm not sure which way were running this year. We've been running with a decreasing radius turn to keep the speeds down below 100 for the high powered cars.

But it's always more then fun!

bobmunob

5th September 2006, 17:48

NVMyMiata

6th September 2006, 17:27

My wife and I will be at the MSCC event on the 10th. I can't wait!!!!

Ronnie

Sideburns

11th September 2006, 01:11

so yeah, whats up with the mscc event today/yesterday? Let me live vicariously through you guys until nationals, ive been painting at "work" tues-fri and now sat and sun and mon at the house up in tallahassee getting it ready for sale...

On the plus side, I have an interview for a staff writer position for the news sun in Sebring on tuesday! Guess all that waiting DID pay off (cross your fingers for me)

Its a local paper but still experience and the job that Ive wanted all these months, as a staff writer and NOT just freelance (jason, youre right about it taking awhile sometimes, thanks for helping me keep my head up during "post graduate unemployment")
http://www.newssun.com/

MarkM1991Silver

12th September 2006, 22:01

Good luck Trey!

Did you guys read the article on the Solstice/Sky in the new (Oct.) SportsCar? It was interesting in that it read like a salespitch for the GM car while comparing to the NC Miata, but more humorous was the part about the car automatically dialing OnStar for help when they hit a cone on an autocross course...for some reason this is not an issue with my 15 year old Miata... :)

PullG

13th September 2006, 18:23

dncrdandy

14th September 2006, 11:36

What's funnier is that the article is written as if no one's really tried autocrossing a Solstice yet. If the writer pulled a few names from Tour results and made a few phone calls, he'd have had a nice sidebar and made the article immediately relevant. Could have even followed up with another sidebar in the December issue on the Miata/Solstice contest at Nationals.
Gee, I guess I didn't read the article the same way Mark did. Except for that last line- "Chances are, however, that "different" may lead to victory." it seemed to me they were fairly harsh on the cars. Lots of comments about lack of trunk space, lack of options on the Club Sport Package, quality control issues and braking issues.

The points about the 5 speed coming with LSD in the Solstice and only on the 6 speed for the MX-5 are just fact- unfortunately. Seems they attribute the Solstice's advantage on the autocross course to the 245s vs the Miata's 205s. Given that represents a 19.5% increase in tire width it makes sense. Lots more grip.

Ah well, it's a moot point. I can't afford either one of them. I'll just have to keep running MY 15 yr old Miata and hope they don't make me race against the NC and the Solstice next year.

kabel

14th September 2006, 14:35

Ah well, it's a moot point. I can't afford either one of them. I'll just have to keep running MY 15 yr old Miata and hope they don't make me race against the NC and the Solstice next year.

+1!

Interesting they commented on the lack of trunk space and lack of options available (though I agree)... those are kind of un-related if the purpose of the car is for autoxing :p

PAW467

14th September 2006, 15:33

Wowak

14th September 2006, 16:45

Frankly the car is ugly as hell.. so why should we worry!

I'm not lining up to buy one, but I think they're one of the best looking cars on the U.S. market today, definitely in the top 5 under $30K.

kabel

14th September 2006, 17:05

I don't mind the styling, I like most of it. From a practicality perspective I would ever own one because of the aforementioned lack of trunk space - practicality aside I think it should have come from the factory with and LS1 already in it.

We had one showing up to the Deland events for a while, have not seen him lately though.

bobmunob

14th September 2006, 17:33

dncrdandy

14th September 2006, 21:58

Word is that the Z0K Club Sport Package IS faster than the 99 Miatas that have been the car to drive in the past. The stock Bilsteins aren't expected to be dogs either. It'll be interesting to see if they prove it in Topeka.

As for the styling I like the Solstice but front end and the Sky back end. The Sky front is just too busy for me. I guess it's my Miata sensibility coming through.

kabel

15th September 2006, 12:35

MarkM1991Silver

15th September 2006, 21:30

Wowak

16th September 2006, 09:49

Sideburns

16th September 2006, 12:31

racing tired is where its at, just ask me and James, tallahassee residents (now nationals "also rans")that used to wake up at 3 am to make it to deland events.

On another note, if my dad shows up this weekend (Ill have the car en route to topeka) is there any way he can snag an ES ride to stay in the points race? (he needs events to qualify for a year end trophy and we arent sure if one deland and 2 sebrings will do it) Anyone? Bueler?

oh, and I passed my drug test (bet you guys didnt see THAT coming?!? ;) ) to work for the paper. Say hello to the new staff writer for the news sun in sebring! Now to haggle for more money :) before making it official!

Dances With Miatas

16th September 2006, 13:43

racing tired is where its at, just ask me and James, tallahassee residents (now nationals "also rans")that used to wake up at 3 am to make it to deland events.Haha, yeah. Nothing like partying til 1am then sleeping 'til ~2:30-ish then waking up to get to Trey's place so we can leave for Deland.

I love you Central Florida guys and your "If I do Gainesville I'll have to get up at 5AM!!!!!!111" posts. :p

By 5am, we were watching the sun rise over I-75 on the way to CFR events in a cramped Miata while fighting over that last Frappucino to stay awake. ;)

Maxcat

16th September 2006, 15:17

Trey congrats on the job.

Trey, James, other Florida drivers good luck at nationals.

Wowak

16th September 2006, 16:35

On another note, if my dad shows up this weekend (Ill have the car en route to topeka) is there any way he can snag an ES ride to stay in the points race?

Which weekend? I already have TWO potential co-drivers for the 24th at Deland (it depends on if my buddy gets his spec miata back together after getting tagged last week at Sebring.)

Wowak

16th September 2006, 16:36

I love you Central Florida guys and your "If I do Gainesville I'll have to get up at 5AM!!!!!!111" posts. :p

Problem is I don't usually fall asleep until 4a.m.! :eek:

bobmunob

16th September 2006, 17:27

Sideburns

16th September 2006, 18:07

It WILL be close, Im just not sure if he can definitely make the last 3, so he was looking for a co-drive in ES Sept 24th since he was planning on going and that was when I told him, dad, you know I love you, but I will already have the car ;)

I DO think it will come up to 9 events (repeat: I think)
no way to know for sure unless glenn/dat chime in with the facts, and the reason even I dont know is because of the whole IRCC debacle... changes event # and therefore # of events, but 1/2 plus one is what we have done in the past (once again, I THINK) which might make it 10! (edit: final # of events left is 4 because sebring sat and sun count as one event per day making it still possible even if 10 is the # to have)

Still looking guys, hes not bad, and even with no ABS he has yet to flatspot a tire on our car!

wowak: 2 possible codrivers? did the significant other finally come around!!?!???

MidLifeFun

16th September 2006, 21:19

Soma07

16th September 2006, 21:45

oh, and I passed my drug test (bet you guys didnt see THAT coming?!? ;) ) to work for the paper. Say hello to the new staff writer for the news sun in sebring! Now to haggle for more money :) before making it official!

That's awesome! Congratulations, I remember how relieved I was when I got my first real job out of college. I would have said damn near anything in that interview to get hired :D

kabel

17th September 2006, 08:27

Trey man, mega Congratulations on not only getting the new gig, but also getting the gig you wanted. That is awesome to hear :cool:

Ah to be young and invincible, that was 15-20 years ago for me. I try not to complain about getting up early, especially around Trey and James knowing that they often make the trek from Tally just to autox at Deland :bang: (never could figure that one out). You two are nuts and I hope that never changes! (I'll bookmark this thread and we'll all visit it again ten years from now to see if you two are still partying till 1am and hitting the road at 3am to autox. :p )

Not sure if I'll be at Deland next Sunday or not. Of course if I am and bymyself, that will be yet another ES co-drive spot that will be available. Though I must say, for whatever reason, I have become less and less enchanted with the Deland site as time goes by.

Lookin forward to seeing James and Trey's names up there in the top five at nats :D

Dances With Miatas

17th September 2006, 10:08

Problem is I don't usually fall asleep until 4a.m.! :eek:

Hmm...
...Yeah, I guess getting in at 4am can be a problem. :eek:
I try not to complain about getting up early, especially around Trey and James knowing that they often make the trek from Tally just to autox at Deland :bang: (never could figure that one out). You two are nuts and I hope that never changes!

Heh, truth be told, we're not sure why we do it too. Especially since on the drive back we always complain to each other about how the surface had no grip, dirt everywhere, etc. We just love autocross that much

(I'll bookmark this thread and we'll all visit it again ten years from now to see if you two are still partying till 1am and hitting the road at 3am to autox. :p )

Ha! My dad says the same thing! "You hate Tallahassee because it's a small town with nothing to do? Want to move to a happenin' place like Orlando? I'll check back with you in 20 years to see if you still care about about big cities with lots of bars and clubs to go to!!"

Lookin forward to seeing Trey's name up there in the top five at nats :D

I had to fix that quote. ;) I'd be happy with a mid-pack finish - especially with my 3-month layoff!

dncrdandy

17th September 2006, 11:58

Trey,
Cheryl and I want to add our congratulations on the job. We're looking to see a national trophy to add to the Pulitzer we expect you to get next week. Trailer is still available if you find something to pull it with, just let me know.

Just got a set of Kumho V710s. Those Hoosiers went away FAST. I think it might have been a combination of not enough camber and low air pressure causing them to wear on the shoulder. I had the Icehawk alignment done before the last event and it really does make a difference in the turn in. Just count the cones I hit!!! (5 in one run and that wasn't a spin out, it was just eating cones!!!!)

Hope to see you in Gainesville on the 8th.

Sideburns

17th September 2006, 12:32

larry- Gville is a possibility, Im thinking about hitting MGA in Cordele on the way back on the 1st if you would like a run down on how nationals went. Ill be leaving fri/sat and the race is on sunday, so If I can make the trip, thatll be the "cool down" race after nats.

I cant belive you people are talking trophies. James is running in CSP in an MR2 that, even if he did know how to drive( ;) james), there is some SERIOUS csp competition at nationals. And me? Im running team DFL as in just running for fun. GRM is paying me a little for a "First time at Solo Nationals" story so if anything Im heading out there for the freelance exposure that GRM will provide. That and not being able to keep up with Jesse N, and by that I mean he still cones and beats me most of the time... well Im just hoping for something in the 20s (since there are 35 of us in ES) It would be nice to go out there and kick butt, but what I, and I think James are thinking is that if we get the first nats out of the way while we dont have the skills, maybe if we go NEXT year when we get a little better we could have a chance without all the psychological mindgames of 2days running and it being the "Big Show" etc.

Trophy, no. Try not to DNF all 3 runs in one day to end up DFL, yes.

kevin- deland is more fun if you dont lift and just yank the steering wheel from side to side to help slow you down instead! Ill show you after your runs one month on a ride-along.

Wowak

17th September 2006, 17:28

wowak: 2 possible codrivers? did the significant other finally come around!!?!???

No, my buddy wants to get his wife behind the wheel of his spec miata, but if he can't get it sorted out by then they're both going to drive my car. Kara may come as well, I'm still working on her to get behind the wheel too.

Wowak

17th September 2006, 17:31

kevin- deland is more fun if you dont lift and just yank the steering wheel from side to side to help slow you down instead! Ill show you after your runs one month on a ride-along.

Kara is still giggling about that technique. :eek:

dncrdandy

18th September 2006, 00:00

larry- Gville is a possibility, Im thinking about hitting MGA in Cordele on the way back on the 1st if you would like a run down on how nationals went. Ill be leaving fri/sat and the race is on sunday, so If I can make the trip, thatll be the "cool down" race after nats.

I cant belive you people are talking trophies. James is running in CSP in an MR2 that, even if he did know how to drive( ;) james), there is some SERIOUS csp competition at nationals. And me? Im running team DFL as in just running for fun. GRM is paying me a little for a "First time at Solo Nationals" story so if anything Im heading out there for the freelance exposure that GRM will provide. That and not being able to keep up with Jesse N, and by that I mean he still cones and beats me most of the time... well Im just hoping for something in the 20s (since there are 35 of us in ES) It would be nice to go out there and kick butt, but what I, and I think James are thinking is that if we get the first nats out of the way while we dont have the skills, maybe if we go NEXT year when we get a little better we could have a chance without all the psychological mindgames of 2days running and it being the "Big Show" etc.

Trophy, no. Try not to DNF all 3 runs in one day to end up DFL, yes.

kevin- deland is more fun if you dont lift and just yank the steering wheel from side to side to help slow you down instead! Ill show you after your runs one month on a ride-along.
Hey Trey,
We're all just giving you our "vote of confidence". We want you to go there with a good "go fast" attitude.

I've seen Robert Carpenter! He isn't fast, he's insane!

Depending on conditions I might make that Cordele as well, but if I do I'll run the Azenis in STS-2 again. Gotta save the new Kumho's for the points races.

Sideburns

18th September 2006, 03:34

larry- the kumhos will wear much better than the hoosiers, bring them anyways. youve got a leg up on albert as it is since his are dead (unless of course he got new Rs) I need the competition out there! (GA, NOT KS!)

sorry for the thread jacking, not much going on in the way of scca for me other than prepping myself/car for next week! I promise next month Ill be better...

still looking for that ES codrive at deland! (thanks ken and steve, but if someone else pops up I wont force you to 3driver!)

Wowak

18th September 2006, 07:15

PAW467

18th September 2006, 08:16

MidLifeFun

18th September 2006, 11:24

GlennF

18th September 2006, 14:08

Hey, do any of you guys live near Apopka? I ask because I need a muffler and a car cover picked up from there. If someone could do that for me and bring them to Deland this Sunday I would gladly make it worth your while. If any of you can do that, just drop me a PM for more details.

Thanks!

Wowak

18th September 2006, 22:28

GlennF

18th September 2006, 22:37

Hey, do any of you guys live near Apopka? I ask because I need a muffler and a car cover picked up from there. If someone could do that for me and bring them to Deland this Sunday I would gladly make it worth your while. If any of you can do that, just drop me a PM for more details.

Thanks!
Well, it seems we can't come back later and edit our own posts in this forum. So, nevermind my previous post, I have already made arrangements to get the stuff.

See ya'll in Deland, we will be in the Miata on some cheesy street tires. :cry:

Wowak

18th September 2006, 22:43

Well, it seems we can't come back later and edit our own posts in this forum. So, nevermind my previous post, I have already made arrangements to get the stuff.

See ya'll in Deland, we will be in the Miata on some cheesy street tires. :cry:

Theres a one hour (I think) time limit to edit your own posts, then the option goes away. Probably to limit database corruption.

dncrdandy

19th September 2006, 00:36

turbo13b

19th September 2006, 23:53

Did anyone go to the last Sebring double? What was the course like? Thay are having another one in October.

Steve

kabel

20th September 2006, 00:12

turbo13b

20th September 2006, 19:20

Sounds like it was fun. Here is the thread from the last one (http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2882&st=15). Is your green monster back on the road yet? How about comming to the Martin Mini-Prix Saturday the 30th :D
Yes the green machine is back on the road. I can't run sunday at Deland but we may swing by to see everyone.
I may do the mini-prix if I can squeeze it in. I am also making plans to try and go to GT live at VIR.
It is the 6th,7th,and 8th of Oct. so it may take all my resources to get to that event.

Steve

103cfrsolo2

20th September 2006, 22:41

Trey this is not a problem.
I will reclassify when I drive to ASP (didnt I tell you about the secret V8 switch I installed) or what ever for a different heat. I have got in enough events on my end and its not like I am going to compete for the top 3 or what ever.

Kenn:
I really appreciate your offer to let me drive your (and Stevens') car. If that offer still stands, I'll plan on being there.
Also, let's all drive ES - I'll drive in a different heat (don't change classes - ES needs your competition).
Let me know what you need me to bring?
Ed

MidLifeFun

20th September 2006, 23:12

kabel

20th September 2006, 23:24

103cfrsolo2

20th September 2006, 23:27

Just your self is all that is needed. Everything else is already in the trailer, so we are set. Actually got a break at work and they slipped the launch so no issues for me going. No problem on who drives: when we can work that out when we get there. (I will take out the V8 switch so no one knows where it is). C U sunday.

Kenn:
Thanks for being so nice to this old crab.
See you Sunday!!!!!
Ed

Wowak

20th September 2006, 23:52

Sideburns

21st September 2006, 01:33

technically, kevin, you are right. However, the mineharts 3 drove thier car, in the same class, AND even in the same heat last month with little/no problems.

Due to that weird deland weather, it would be nice if ES all ran together in the same heat, but thats something for 'yall to work out at the event (crap, sebring is affecting my speech ALREADY!!! OH NO!!)

Wowak

21st September 2006, 03:06

Soma07

21st September 2006, 10:28

MidLifeFun

21st September 2006, 11:52

bobmunob

21st September 2006, 11:53

Wowak

21st September 2006, 13:06

I would let you drive ES in my car, but I dont think they would allow it.

I'm pretty sure I'd have to contest it. ;)

"Um.. I don't think that big funny intake with the pulley on it is stock..."

bobmunob

22nd September 2006, 17:50

I'm pretty sure I'd have to contest it. ;)

"Um.. I don't think that big funny intake with the pulley on it is stock..."

Sure its stock. Its a special air pump that they had to put on certain cars to pass emissions in Kalifornia.

103cfrsolo2

23rd September 2006, 15:07

I just found out my brother (Jonathan) isn't going to make the event so I also have a co-drive seat open.

Jason:
Thanks for the offer. To keep it simple (not jump in with Kenn & Steve's 2 drive and make it a 3 drive) - I'll take you up on your offer, if that's OK. I'm leaving home now to stay with my Dad in Apopka, so if it is - I'll see you tomorrow.
If it isn't, Kenn & Steve or Brian - I'll hit one of you up instead.
Thanks to all that stepped up and said I could drive your ES.
PS: Trey in on the road to Nationals - he left yesterday (wants to "practice" on Sunday).
C U All at Deland!

Soma07

23rd September 2006, 16:14

Ed,

Sounds good, see you tomorrow!

Jason

Dances With Miatas

23rd September 2006, 22:22

I'll be at Deland tomorrow, but not in a Miata. I'm a traitor and I'm going to be driving the MR2 I'll be running at Nationals.

ED! James here, hopefully I'll see you at Deland tomorrow. :)

Dances With Miatas

24th September 2006, 12:06

I hate my car! I was driving down to Deland when I decided to stop at a rest area just off of I-295. As I get out of the car, I notice a small stream of water. "Aww crap" I think to my self "I hope that's not MY car!" Turns out it was my car, so I decided to drive back to Tallahassee and try to find the problem.

Luckily, the leak isn't serious and I was able to make the 200 mile trip back to town without incident. I think as long as I keep the coolant topped off, I can drive it around town until I can fix the problem.

dncrdandy

24th September 2006, 12:10

bobmunob

24th September 2006, 16:55

Wowak

24th September 2006, 17:15

not a word about the buick wowak

I saw nothing! :D :wave:

Wowak

24th September 2006, 18:34

Soma07

24th September 2006, 21:32

By the way, Congrats are in order for Jason who clubbed the heck out of one of the most, if not THE most competetive ES fields I've seen all year. I was really happy with a 43.7, and it was good for dead last in ES.

Thanks Brian. I was pretty happy with my driving today and that doesn't happen very often at Deland. Hopefully I'll be able to keep it up and Gainsville this Saturday.

dncrdandy

24th September 2006, 22:14

Would somebody please give me some details about the MSCC Minprix in G'ville next Saturday?

From the April results it would appear to be a standard autocross but the classes are somewhat different than SCCA.

What class would my 91 E Stock be placed in? (If I run with Azenis or if I run with "R" compunds)

How many runs is typical for one of these events?

Since it's right here I am seriously thinking of entering but I need more details before I shell out $45.

Thanks

kabel

24th September 2006, 22:45

A stock 91 is F stock with Martin, and stock is stock. A fully prepped SCCA E-stock car would be in F-Prepared with Martin. I run adjustable shocks and r-comps (and soon a front bar) which puts me in FP. So you would be in FP too because it looks like your car is setup just like mine. We should get at least four runs with a possibility for fun runs following competition. Have you been to the Test Track before?

Schedule, Details and pre-registration available on the Martin Web Site (http://www.martinsportscarclub.com/)

oh, and if you ever want to peak in on the Martin forum, we are on autocrossforum.com. Here is a link to the Mini Prix discussion (http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3172&hl=); excuse the A.D.D. nature of our members :p

Soma07

24th September 2006, 23:19

Here is a video from a Mini-Prix two years ago I think. Its Ian in his M3 on street tires:

http://www.mrsideways.com/60.1final_Run.wmv

We try to run a different configuration each time but that should give you an idea of what the course is like.

dncrdandy

26th September 2006, 00:52

Thanks for the input.

As long as there are a FEW places where you have to change direction a little bit instead of just using horsepower I'm in. Give me at least ONE slalom so I can kill some cones! :eek:

It's not that I'm against horsepower, I just ain't got none!!! :( (But I do have some VERY energetic mice in there running their little hearts out for me)
Probably see you guys there Sat AM.

turbo13b

26th September 2006, 18:52

Once you get up to speed it's all about keeping your momentum up. Being smooth and carrying speed. It's not all HP.

Steve

Wowak

26th September 2006, 19:43

Once you get up to speed it's all about keeping your momentum up. Being smooth and carrying speed. It's not all HP.

Steve

You gonna be there, Steve? A convoy might help keep me awake if you were leaving sat. A.M. like me.

turbo13b

26th September 2006, 22:15

You gonna be there, Steve? A convoy might help keep me awake if you were leaving sat. A.M. like me.
It looks like I can't make it. I am using all my time to get ready for GT live at VIR the next weekend. Too many things too close togeather. I wish I could make it I had a blast the last time I went.

Steve

dncrdandy

27th September 2006, 02:01

dncrdandy

27th September 2006, 02:08

Once you get up to speed it's all about keeping your momentum up. Being smooth and carrying speed. It's not all HP.

Steve
This from a guy who signs on as TURBO 13b.
How come it is that guys WITH HP always want to say how unimportant HP is. Why do you think I wanted some cones out there?... so the HP WOULDN'T be so important.

I've done a Solo Trials as well as SoloII at the test track. Enjoyed both but given the fact that it appears that at the Martin Event I'd be in the same class as some cars with considerably more HP than my little TC (ToyCar) it'll be a lot more fun and I'll be more competitve if we're doing a lot of turning.

Wowak

27th September 2006, 02:13

This from a guy who signs on as TURBO 13b.
How come it is that guys WITH HP always want to say how unimportant HP is. Why do you think I wanted some cones out there?... so the HP WOULDN'T be so important.

I've done a Solo Trials as well as SoloII at the test track. Enjoyed both but given the fact that it appears that at the Martin Event I'd be in the same class as some cars with considerably more HP than my little TC (ToyCar) it'll be a lot more fun and I'll be more competitve if we're doing a lot of turning.

Since I'm not a MSCC member, I'll basically just be comparing my times to the ES regulars (Kabel, Jon, Jason, you, etc.) That ought to satisfy me. :wave:

dncrdandy

27th September 2006, 02:34

Wowak

27th September 2006, 02:45

PAW467

27th September 2006, 08:22

This from a guy who signs on as TURBO 13b.
How come it is that guys WITH HP always want to say how unimportant HP is. Why do you think I wanted some cones out there?... so the HP WOULDN'T be so important.

I've done a Solo Trials as well as SoloII at the test track. Enjoyed both but given the fact that it appears that at the Martin Event I'd be in the same class as some cars with considerably more HP than my little TC (ToyCar) it'll be a lot more fun and I'll be more competitve if we're doing a lot of turning.

dncrdandy,
Actually, I've meet Turbo13B,and is a good guy and it is true. HP is not always important! Use your speed, our cars are far more nimble then most others.

And I don't understand why do you say that you will be in a class with more HP. The 91-97 Miatas run together, were talking about 10-15hp. I've seen 1.6L's beat 1.8L's. My trusty old steed may be quick but by no means a HP demon!

kabel

27th September 2006, 10:12

Granted there may be a couple additional drivers we do not normally see but the regulars in the MSCC FP class is made up of 90-97 Miatas, 85-91 RX7s and the occasional mr2. As long as the weather hold out that day I think we'll all have a really time within our class.

Jason are you brining the miata or co-driving the RX8?

GlennF

27th September 2006, 10:22

Soma07

27th September 2006, 12:05

Jason are you brining the miata or co-driving the RX8?

I'll be in the Miata running FP. Jonathan is in Germany right now and he'll miss the mini-prix so the RX8 isn't an option. Plus I have enough points in SMST to win the class for the year so I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Personally I prefer driving the Miata anyways. The RX8 is a decent car but its too pushy in stock form for my tastes.

kabel

27th September 2006, 12:52

Wow your little bro has turned into quite the traveler! A real shame he is missing all these events, but he is still young.

What time is everyone hitting the road Saturday? I am suposed to meet up with a OTM at JYP off the 408 around 5:30am... think I'll make it to G-ville in time or do I need to (gulp) leave earlier?

PAW467

27th September 2006, 14:34

kabel

27th September 2006, 15:05

Tony will be there! I was able to bust him out of jail. :)
woohoo :jump: 'scooter' is comming!

Oh, and I invested in an e-pass so that should cut off a bit of time too.

PAW467

27th September 2006, 15:20

woohoo :jump: 'scooter' is comming!

ROFLMAO :D

Soma07

27th September 2006, 15:58

Wow your little bro has turned into quite the traveler! A real shame he is missing all these events, but he is still young.

Yes, he has. Bastard :)

Yeah, it sucks he has to miss events but that just gives me more time to catch up to him. He has gotten too fast!

PAW467

27th September 2006, 16:06

Miatamoto

27th September 2006, 16:52

This from a guy who signs on as TURBO 13b.
How come it is that guys WITH HP always want to say how unimportant HP is. Why do you think I wanted some cones out there?... so the HP WOULDN'T be so important.

I've done a Solo Trials as well as SoloII at the test track. Enjoyed both but given the fact that it appears that at the Martin Event I'd be in the same class as some cars with considerably more HP than my little TC (ToyCar) it'll be a lot more fun and I'll be more competitve if we're doing a lot of turning.

Hey, I don't think you know me but I'm a former MSCC member. The autocrossing out here in TX is much different in FL. Most of the autocrosses that I go to out here are faster than the Mini Prix. I've actually hit triple digits in my old autox car (E36 M3).

There are a lot of courses that I walk and I keep saying in my head "damn, another HP course." 9 times out of 10 they end up being momentum courses and I beat a bunch of high HP courses. This is coming from a guy that went from a M3 to a Miata. Even on courses with long straights, the handling of Miatas will surprise a lot of people.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8338838569285010241&q=tcb+racing.com

Maxcat

27th September 2006, 19:05

Wowak

27th September 2006, 20:03

I'm going to be out of town for October DeLand. Theres an off chance I'll show up one of the days at Sebring.

Oh, hey, is anybody going to be at Gainsville that lives near Trey, or sees him regularly? I have a part for his (dad's) car, need to know if its worth cramming in to get it to him.

dncrdandy

27th September 2006, 20:57

Hey, I don't think you know me but I'm a former MSCC member. The autocrossing out here in TX is much different in FL. Most of the autocrosses that I go to out here are faster than the Mini Prix. I've actually hit triple digits in my old autox car (E36 M3).

There are a lot of courses that I walk and I keep saying in my head "damn, another HP course." 9 times out of 10 they end up being momentum courses and I beat a bunch of high HP courses. This is coming from a guy that went from a M3 to a Miata. Even on courses with long straights, the handling of Miatas will surprise a lot of people.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8338838569285010241&q=tcb+racing.com
Dang.. is that an autocross course or a road race? I have to work at it to learn our 50-60 second courses at Brooksville. That ran over about 1:50! Of course, we may have as many different elements in that course come to think of it, just packed closer together.

dncrdandy

27th September 2006, 21:02

Soma07

28th September 2006, 00:28

Hey, I don't think you know me but I'm a former MSCC member. The autocrossing out here in TX is much different in FL. Most of the autocrosses that I go to out here are faster than the Mini Prix. I've actually hit triple digits in my old autox car (E36 M3).

There are a lot of courses that I walk and I keep saying in my head "damn, another HP course." 9 times out of 10 they end up being momentum courses and I beat a bunch of high HP courses. This is coming from a guy that went from a M3 to a Miata. Even on courses with long straights, the handling of Miatas will surprise a lot of people.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8338838569285010241&q=tcb+racing.com

I remember you Thomas. I used to run a green Trans Am with MSCC up until recently. I think we did an Evo school/practice day together once...

Anyways I completely agree that the vast majority of autocross courses are momentum courses if you drive them right. Horsepower is alot of fun but tis really hard to make up alot of time on the straights. Handling is where its all at ;)

Also I've noticed alot of people who drive low HP cars seem to think that "fast" courses favor HP cars while slow, tight corners favor momentum cars when really the opposite is true. Slow tight corners just give the more powerful cars another chance to accelerate (their strongpoint) while fast courses are usually fast because you have to keep your speed (momentum) up.

Miatamoto

28th September 2006, 15:49

Dang.. is that an autocross course or a road race? I have to work at it to learn our 50-60 second courses at Brooksville. That ran over about 1:50! Of course, we may have as many different elements in that course come to think of it, just packed closer together.

Yeah, we've got some long, fast courses out here. This was a BMWCCA course and they are known for fast, non-technical courses. There are other clubs here with much more technical courses.

BTW, the last event I did at Tavarese was crazy, going through the same gate 3 times. It was a tough course.

Miatamoto

28th September 2006, 15:50

I remember you Thomas. I used to run a green Trans Am with MSCC up until recently. I think we did an Evo school/practice day together once...

Anyways I completely agree that the vast majority of autocross courses are momentum courses if you drive them right. Horsepower is alot of fun but tis really hard to make up alot of time on the straights. Handling is where its all at ;)

Also I've noticed alot of people who drive low HP cars seem to think that "fast" courses favor HP cars while slow, tight corners favor momentum cars when really the opposite is true. Slow tight corners just give the more powerful cars another chance to accelerate (their strongpoint) while fast courses are usually fast because you have to keep your speed (momentum) up.

Yep, that was me in the silver M3 sedan. I remember that event, lots of fun and cheap. It's too bad they don't do that out here.

You're right about the fast and slow courses.

turbo13b

28th September 2006, 18:58

I remember you Thomas. I used to run a green Trans Am with MSCC up until recently. I think we did an Evo school/practice day together once...

Anyways I completely agree that the vast majority of autocross courses are momentum courses if you drive them right. Horsepower is alot of fun but tis really hard to make up alot of time on the straights. Handling is where its all at ;)

Also I've noticed alot of people who drive low HP cars seem to think that "fast" courses favor HP cars while slow, tight corners favor momentum cars when really the opposite is true. Slow tight corners just give the more powerful cars another chance to accelerate (their strongpoint) while fast courses are usually fast because you have to keep your speed (momentum) up.
That is what I was getting at. I know It just sounds weak from a guy with more HP than he can use. But I do know how It feels I spent many years chasing Pettit,and Speedsource cars in ITS with much less HP than thay had.

Steve

PAW467

28th September 2006, 23:20

Miatamoto

29th September 2006, 09:37

Aye Thomas, how are things going! You running SM2 or CSP now?

Thanks are going great! TX has been good.

Jenn's old black Miata is now in CSP (I raced in ES for one season). I'm running TEIN Flex coilovers (9k F/6k R), hollow front bar, no rear bar, ebay header, custom shorty exhaust, Sparco Sprints and everything that isn't necessary is removed (still gotta take out the A/C).

I finally got a hard top and removed the soft top.

SM2 would be fun but I've got a lot to do to make the car competitive in CSP.

I would love to run the car how it is now at Tavarese, I think it would be faster than the M3.

MidLifeFun

29th September 2006, 11:57

Anyone know why at SCCA nationals Trey is not driving. I hope the results published are wrong, but it only shows Jason running the 94 Black in ES.

Note: Looks like Dat, and company ran into some stiff competition this week, though Per may pull out a trophy.

dncrdandy

29th September 2006, 12:08

I think Trey couldn't get his car out so if you look you'll find him running an MR2 in SM-2. Doesn't appear to be a competitive car, or driving that rear engine is enough different that he hasn't got it down. Bet he does better today though.

Jesse is still close enough to get it done although 1st might be a big task. He's only 0.13 out of 2nd though.

Wowak

29th September 2006, 18:34

Wowak

29th September 2006, 21:17

Dances With Miatas

1st October 2006, 15:38

Anyone know why at SCCA nationals Trey is not driving. I hope the results published are wrong, but it only shows Jason running the 94 Black in ES.

Note: Looks like Dat, and company ran into some stiff competition this week, though Per may pull out a trophy.

I can explain this one. :)

Trey trailered the Miata with the intention of running it at Nationals. Jim offered Trey the chance to drive the SM2 MR-2 and like any red-blooded male, Trey jumped at the chance to drive that beast.

That left an open spot in his car which I ended up filling. You'll see me in ES in 27th spot after day one and 29th after day 2. At one point, I was as high as 24th out of ~37-38 people but pissed it away with poor car setup and terrible driving on day 2.

Sideburns

1st October 2006, 23:47

im baaaack! and in one piece without any major damage done (ego aside wink wink ;) )

more to come, Im writing an article for GRM about the experience, not only nats but also the 3.5l v6 mr2 that was running 335s in the rear.

if you didnt drool over that last sentence, then check your pulse. you might be dead. I took notes like a good reporter and the plan now is to publish them UNEDITED on the autocrossforum.com in my blog. (its empty as of now) each night back at the room I wrote about what happened, how I felt and what was going on with my roomates- adam breakey in SS, ian stewart in ss (2nd place again this year for those needing a history lesson), jose martinez in SM and jason huepenbecker aka "hoopie" in my ES miata. stay tuned for links, more bench racing, and a top 10 reasons you shouldnt let another year pass without going!

oh and GRM did offer me a job but I declined. sorry guys!

kabel

1st October 2006, 23:59

Sideburns

2nd October 2006, 00:23

the first short installment is in, and the only one that took up less than a full handwritten page. Its acually very short cause I was super tired- after all, KS is a good bit away from central florida!

http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=5&

unfortunately, the october Central Fl events is about to be posted, but not to worry- Ill whor* my work out on that thread too!